Ok before you start I know Hi Points are barely a gun but they do work and they come with a life time warranty. And even with as funky as they are were else you going to buy a new 9mm for $100 that will hold a 3" group at 75'. Their kind of big and clunky, heavy and they slip around in your hand. But for a first hand gun or cheep protection they work. I've had one of the carbines that you could hit a bunny at 100 yards. Just can't beat it for $100. Smoking Dan.
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